Saturday, January 22, 2011

One month has gone by, i'm still lying around somewhere in the rural area of Thailand. I've only been to bangkok twice because i'm dread of the long hour rides. Ktown is so much better. But i'm getting bored of it already. =)
Anyway, i'm days here is numbered. so i'll have to play with all my might, if not when training frame starts, i'm totally staying indoors... A few moments in my life i encountered in thailand.
i celebrated my New 2011 year in thailand, sending those fire lanterns into the dark sky is just amazing. And the fireworks here is like everywhere...
Secondly was the arrival of COA. he came in a chopper, and i manage to grab a snapshot of the chopper.
Thirdly was a visit to a primary school to do some community service project with the school. I had my fun with the children. And i learnt some thai from them too..
Fourthly, i'm going Pattaya next week, next friday to be exact. Its gonna be a boring trip if water sports is really prohibited during my time there. I'm not gonna go drink. I'm not gonna see all the ladyboys. I'm just gonna go down to the beach and maybe....get to know some ang moh zha bor. haahahaha...

Saturday, December 25, 2010

Christmas Eve at Ktown...w0o0ho0o! JingleBellsJingleBellsJingleBells!!

Today is my official night-out at Ktown, been looking around and observing Chon Thai. Sat on the Tuk Tuk for the first time, totally FUN! although i rather be the one moving it!

Anyway, i did quite an amount of shopping, spent like 3000baht in one Mega-supermarket! But Thailand is really like entertaining everywhere, in a way where i dont get to see real human comportment in home ground.

Guess what! i've got myself a new wife! my 3rd one actually...Although this 3rd one is just a replacement for 8months, but i'm still gonna treat her good. And now she's really fat!!!!! hahha i miss my wives at home! =( booooO!!!!!
this is my room! *Before* With the Garfield 199baht pillow.
And this is my room now!
I'm still feeling empty and in-secured. Maybe because my buddy is in bangkok for christmas! ARGH!!!!
I'll just stuff myself with Pocky Almond Crunch for Christmas!
Merry Christmas!
sòoksănwan krítmâat
สุขสันต์วัน คริสต์มาส

*chon thai stands for thai people. =)

Thursday, December 23, 2010

A New Year's Day celebration on 23rd Dec?!!?!?! YES! its happening in SaiYok....
Drinking, dancing.. totally identical to Zoukout, just that its a field of grass that we're dancing on. Thank God it haven been raining for like 8days?! -_-
Party Time!
Anyways, i din get drunk! i still showered before i sleep.. hahaha..
I heard someone vomited in their room....EeeeeEeeEeEeEeeEeeEeEeEeEEeeeEeeeeeee....!!

Suay Mak Mak!

Saturday, December 18, 2010

Today is just the third day here. And i'm very bored already! Everyone feels stagnant to me. And guess what, they will have a cut-out water and electricity day tmr! wao0! So i think i'm gonna be in bed from 8am to 5pm. What to do other than sleeping in without water and electricity.
HAHA.. Oh yah, when i came here, my upper study left me a SNSD poster right beside the bed. Just nice i get to see Jessica whenever i'm on the bed! how nice!
Lucky for me to get a pillow before i reached, at least now i have a garfield pillow with me with my empty bed.
I'm cold, although its not snowing, but the weather here is almost similar as of Genting Highlands. Freezing cold winds!

I'm gonna sleep in tmr on a sunday! -_-

Thursday, December 16, 2010

My first day in Thailand was a pretty long day. There were only 4 of us who got posted here and we had to settle communication problems. Bought myself a thai phone number, as well as CAT to call back home.
Get to see all the Thai wordings all around, which i dont even understand, as well as people that converse thai to me! Question Marks all over my head!
Reached my camp which was rural like hell! in the middle of the jungle, where i see cows, chickens, tigers, elephants, dogs, cats, mosquitoes, house flies, tons and tons of ants! Opening my eyes to even better things like buddha statues all over thailand.
The people here are always having a smile on their faces. Even if the sun is burning everyone down, they seem to care less about it.
Currency issues! Damn! they tell me the price in thai. And i realise i could only give the *HUH* face! -_-

overall, i'm happy i'm connected into civilization once again! =)

Wednesday, September 15, 2010

W0oah! 2.5km seems like 25km for me today as a joined the battalion for the morning run. People seems astonished to see me gearing up. hahaa..Almost vomited!
*I see White in the sky!*
Anyway, today was the day i wore my no.4 uniform once again. I din forget about the knots for the shoelace, nor the folding of the 4. Just that i dont even believe its me in the mirror again in green. Many friends still ask me to wear back to my admin. *Is that your no.4?* hahahaha...

Tuesday, September 14, 2010

Damn... I missed another chance to for the Nike Race!
Last year was Human Race 10k, this year its City Run 10k... Sucks to miss it again.. why am i always missing out for the registration period and its always full whenever i log in!
Damn, i should have logged in earlier... ARGH!

Decided to join my friends to run every Morning, for Mon, Wed and Fri. Although i dont know whether my knee is gonna take it, but i wanna wear nice clothes for the coming new year!

Year End sale is coming.... W0o0h0oo! i wanna spend like 1000 dollars!! To get my Agnes B Wallet! hahahah!! Isetan! here i come! *Deep, i'm calling you up soon!!!

Saturday, August 07, 2010

Busy Busy August! been away from camp for 4 days, and today was a half day off too. We were asked how proud we are for singapore. But i asked the people, are we proud of it in the first place? Many said about the safety and cleanliness of the country but when it comes to negative comments, there would be tons to compile. Singaporeans, Ugly or what?!

I believe the image we sent to foreigners are pretty good. Till now, i've NEVER heard any bad comments about SG, its usually something good about this and that. So i'm pretty proud in this face.

Happy National Day Singapore. =)

Thursday, August 05, 2010

yikes, few months had passed.. and i'm still alive in this atrocious life of mine. i guessed i haven't been really happy since the start of the year?! [I've been single, i've not been doing anything useful, i've not accomplished any huge success] i'm just stagnant, stagnant from the day i enlist myself into SAF.

God, somebody please take away my misery and share the joy afterwards. I just need a companion to have my activities going. If google could answer me, i'll google it!

One big accomplishment recently was my completion of Class 2A license. Just something i'm proud of, with 4points. I guessed the skills are inherited through family line.. As my father is a great driver too...

I think every NSF has many to complain, like each time they gather around civilians, they tend to complain. I dunwanna to be in that group yet its just too hard not to complain about SAF!
Sucks FULL_TIME!!!

Spending my time with God again in a much smaller church this time, but they aren't giving me any answers. I've asked God many times, but each time the answers were just making it worse. Especially when that particular guy came and ask me 'Is it very hard to love someone sometimes?' i'm like NOoooooo! --> *he was referring to a guy that just shout very crudely at the sound crew who was causing unwanted feedbacks. I told him, 'he just purely voiced out his opinion in a very crude way.' i just thought, the issue of love wasn't even tested, why would he came up with this question. Ridiculers, I wonder what has all these people been understanding from the bible or their pastor. -_-

ARGH!! Many unsettlement!

*i'll post again soon i hope.. Busy August for me.

Friday, May 21, 2010

Heading towards Ladang Camp, as what people known as, 'Tekong'. A place where boys turn to man.. HAHAA.. even i can't accept it.. oppS...
Okay, this time round, i'm going to collect documents from HQ, totally different when i first enlisted. Sitting on the ferry, slowly the engine sound and crashing waves, it was just solemn quiet for me. Thinking about 22nd Oct 2009.
Life isn't the same anymore, tekong life isn't the same anymore. Looking at them training and looking at me now. Both are serving NS, but once posted into Unit, its like having a long long 2 yrs holiday in camp. Sucks to be alive..

Tuesday, April 27, 2010

I'm relieved, I get to speak to london on my birthday, at least now its 00:00 and i'm listening to her.
Been out with my buddies to dinner, and we got ourselves neoprints.. Like centuries before when i last smile into the machine. 4yrs back was long...
At 00:01, she says she's going down to get tissue, did she realised its passed my birthday already? Maybe its because of the time lapse, the 7hr gap that she's still living on 27th April. hmmm..
I wanna meet alot of people, many of my friends which i haven been going out with, like my STPI friends, and lasalle friends..
Just went over to lasalle for a few mins to catch them, but they're already leaving home. And i also miss those at STPI. our volleyball games.....

I just need that someone to stay with me for at least today..

Saturday, April 24, 2010

I had this great dream on tuesday night. I was in camp and the dream was ongoing till Mingshen's alarm starts ringing. Crashed my beautiful dream.
Anyway, that wasn't the worst, i spill the cup of tea all over the table. Come back to REALITY. i guessed thats what its telling me.

I was holding hands with london, walking alongside each other, taking her around and showing her around the place, going shopping with her, gazing the stars side by side. How sweet. But its all a dream.

I just told her about it just now, and she just said...Erm. Okay. You dream too much Liao, Lol.

she always leaves so soon, and i couldn't talk to her much, maybe she's real busy at the other end of the world. London!! argh!

Reading those past history we had during 2009 was fun. and she wasn't holding back at all.

time to do some dreaming again. Can't wait to fly over 7hrs back...

Saturday, April 10, 2010

oh God.. whenever i blog nowdays, i'm feeling moody or emo. no more happy hanhan.
i called her today, imposing as xian, cause i din want the awkwardness. but without knowing, she talked to me without holding back, so memories just started gushing back, waking those bits and pieces at the back of my head.
And suprisingly, i saw EN online. whenever i see her online, i'll be superbly excited, but this time round she sensed my moodiness. and we shared our previous love life.
with. says: (3:35:30 AM)

you know, i don't need my bf to bring me to posh restaurants

with. says: (3:35:44 AM)

i don't need him to stick by me 24/7

with. says: (3:35:52 AM)

i can give him freedom if he wants

with. says: (3:36:05 AM)

i just wanna do the simplest things with him

with. says: (3:36:22 AM)

just lie beside him and gaze the stars

with. says: (3:36:23 AM)

thats it

with. says: (3:36:27 AM)

enough ya know

with. says: (3:36:35 AM)

i know i can do that everytime i see him

blah blah blah...and after all that trashing, i'm still not totally saved, but at least i know someone whom i can ask to gaze at the stars in the sky...
3yrs more, i'm waiting..

Sunday, March 07, 2010

woah! been so so far away from posting any entries.. Camp has been so so and so so. Nothing much to elaborate on it. Just finding ways to make my life better!
CNY has gone past for quite awhile, although the tidbits at home are still visible on the table. But i never had enough of my favourite Bak Kwa this time round!

oh Yah, that night i spent talking to Sai Lou was indeed triggering my emotions again. He forced himself to stop thinking about it, but when we were talking, he couldn't stop but babble all his misses.. our ciggs weren't leaving till 3am... where i started snoring next to him! haha..

Misses and kisses! tons of misses once again appear in my blood stream. i just wanna talk to you once again! to start reminiscing!! ARGH!

WHERE ARE YOU WHEN I WANNA TALK TO YOU! I MISS YOU ALOT>!

Saturday, February 13, 2010

SHOP SHOP SHOP! now my account is at its minimum soon! HAHHAAA
But satisfied i am now! getting all my desires accomplished! pretty much pleased and blessed!

BAtam! Wakeboard! i'm coming!!

Sunday, February 07, 2010

Cleaning for the whole day, it sucks to clean every single part of the house, practically every corner every inch. sick and tired of it. Do not know whether to look forward to CNY or not, seems like we need to prepare alot of stuff for it, especially cleaning! yucks! ARGH!!
i get to book out like only 2days, and i have to slog myself to cleaning again, when friday was area cleaning in camp! now i'm tired and lazy. I still got to book in ltr, argh! somebody kill me please! i cannot help but to EMO again, i just need someone to talk to. Or hear me talk!
Anyway, i hope i'll be carefree after CNY, no more stacks of clothes for me to fold, and no more lumps of dust for me to mop..

I'm going back to my stars!

Saturday, February 06, 2010

D&G frenzy~ ultimate enjoyment today! =) i'll bring a smiling face to CNY!
gonna go for Night shopping for CNY goodies ltr.. hopefully i'll get my favourite Bak Kwa! *slurps =P

Friday, February 05, 2010

Great! i'm home once again.. army is practically a waste of time. Sitting around, sleeping is almost my main vocation. its just plain dumb.
anyway, been mood swinging and emo-ing about me staying in camp. i chose the bed nearest to the window. And every night the stars will always be there to keep me accompany.
With my friends along in the day and the stars with me in the night, thats pretty much how i endure through the week. 21 months more to go. save me someone!

Tuesday, January 26, 2010

It sucks. It sucks to stay in again, and for this time its for 2years till the date i ORD. sucks man!
i'm gonna be gone for weekdays, and only be active on weekends, i really wonder what i can be doing in camp. And once again cleaning stuff and daily lifestyle like stagnant once more. My life! Hell to NSlife!
somemore its so far away from mainland, and they said we could even detect malaysia network! (-_-) and MOSQUITOS! hate it! argh!
SHit it!!!


MISS ME PEOPLE!

Sunday, January 24, 2010

Sunbathing! WOAH! the feeling was so good, and the weather was fantastic! i'm still contemplating where i lie myself into the sunlight!
Went for the 'Sunlight' with Xian and seriously he doesn't really get tanned so easily. But i'm a tanning machine! One session for me, Ten sessions for him! =P
Jurong East was the place and where Xian satisfy his desires after long training days! A splendid view for him! hahahaaha..
*Only he will get it!

Saturday, January 23, 2010

I'm riding round and round and round
When you go down, when you go down down
I'm riding round and round and round
When you go down, when you go down down

Friday, January 22, 2010

Food Food FOod! happily cooking for dinner once again! Ever since Army daze were involved, i dont have time and i dont feel like doing anything. Stagnant, Stagnant! Total disaster! hahahaa...
OKay, i cooked dinner for mum and myself, pretty much what i'm doing previously, never really did involve any creativity, plain simple dinner! =)

Tuesday, January 19, 2010

i'm a crazy boy! i know exactly how they are gonna know about this. And i know she reads my blog, but still i got to write all these out. I believe everyone deserve a way to live and a way to die. I never believe in fate, and how fate can plan our destiny. I always believe we plan our own lives, and how we live it. And i'm always stubborn in this!
He strongly disagrees with my decision, thats why i made that decision before informing. And so i realised thats what happened all the time! even my first ear piercing, my tongue piercing, my tattoo, my driving license, and my bike, even my accident! i dunno why, but he doesn't make me feel good telling anything to him.
But of course he takes good care of me! that i can strongly agree. Thats why i respect him, yet disobey him. I cant take orders, i cant take constrictions. I dont wanna be controlled and i cant be controlled!
and THATS ME!

Sunday, January 17, 2010

I'm gonna be the rider of this bike soon, hopefully by Saturday! Got to take care of the insurance, road tax and ownership transfers, season parking. Tons of paper work to do. Got to do it soon! =)
I'm a Happy boy!

Sunday, January 10, 2010

Its a Sunday, and i'm submerging myself in the sun and laying myself flat on the sand. Either the water or the sand, i feel great!
Met jonathan and girls and chilled at cafe del mar, which they really slang and practically sounded like nicole. hahahaa..and i remember i used to 'huh' and 'huh' when conversing with nicole on the phone! =P
So ltr that day, winnie and gang came, and i felt great playing volleyball and frisbee once again after a very long time!!!
and of course sipping that ice chilled beer was fantastic! wooH!

Saturday, January 09, 2010

Dancing away into the mirror, no difference from the actual, but it look pretty much different from the front and from the top. where you get to see how well or how shitty you dance! =))
happy today but also sad!
i've been good on my billiard, but not good enough, i gotta need more training and time. i cannot lose out on billiard! train train train, choo choo!!

Thursday, January 07, 2010

I dont mind being a leader, i've always wanted to be a leader. But the survey shows that i'm a peacock, not an eagle. Peacock which means a persuasive personal.
So now i'm given a opportunity to be an eagle, game IC. happy i was, with this position. But everytime i stand myself infront of everyone, i tend to feel nervous and stage fright of course!
The other time when i had this singing competition, i was stage fright, and i sang till i got all the lyrics mixed up. But now i told myself to stand straight and be confident. And i did it..!!

Another thing is that i'm gonna dance! haha...how nice! and i'm gonna be the sound IC for my friend's wedding too.. i've got alot to learn.. pray hard i dont ruin her wedding...

so many important positions makes me stressed up, but it makes me grow up. I wanna grow up!
okay, now that i'm feeling a bit better, i think i'm gonna pull myself together and move on.

Monday, January 04, 2010

Happy Birthday EN!

Sunday, January 03, 2010

Pretty fun after countdown, and guess what, 2Jan comes my first ever guard duty. And there goes my long weekend, didnt know what its all about until i've been through it. Activities coming up, and i'm all messed up without my schedule book....
I gotta write it all out.. army just wrecked all my plans...
Sentosa outing soon! drinking here i come!

Friday, January 01, 2010

Happy New 2010!
Siloso Countdown Party. wanted to try it out this time round. never been to and now is the first time. I had great fun. especially at the wavehouse, where i phycho-ed Xian once again to attempt the flowrider. Wavehouse is new and i've gotta try it! 15bucks for an hour, pretty worth it. So xian and i went onto the rushing water and into the rushing water. I had a time where i face bust into the floor, busted lips* -_-
Seng was our photographer, happily snapping away, and he was snapped by stomp.com too! =)
Clair and Zisky was having fun too!! countdown with chicken wings and potatoes! hahhaha..
2010 sounds like a good year to me!

Wednesday, December 30, 2009

hoho..HAHA..HEHEEHEEE!!!!
laughing all the time i have now, cause i've been OOC. and OOC stands for out of course! yeahs!!
Rmb how i hated this vocation of technicians, how i wanted to be out of it, now i'm really out.
happy lovely feeling!!
Currently awaiting for posting to another vocation. And my current job is as an AS- administrative staff.
I just another happy guy again!

Saturday, December 26, 2009

hell0o.

i sound moody, cause i just updated my Ginger blog. Kind of losing the words to express.
Anyway, i'm posted to Auto Tech A Veh, Ayer Rajah Camp. Sounds so turn off for me. The moment i keyed my IC no. and my Singpass, the technician appeared and i just lost my mind. The more u desire for something, it doesn't come, but the most undesired ones will always appear to fuck your life.
Shit time in camp, got to fixed tank and shit. it just sucks when u dont get to choose in life. And i believe thats not how i'm living it.
hmmm.. been going around clubs and discos to enjoy myself. i've just realised that i could just move to the music, dance to the music and lose my mind. TO just keep my eyes close and move my muscles. But the moment people hear clubs and discos, they think its a taboo place, a no-no, a place full of bad people. but know what. WHATEVER.

I'm EMO-ed.

Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Monday morning, we travelled to Queens St to hop onto our coach to Genting, and guess what, at the very first junction, a white cloth covers a twisted body. What a nice scene early in the morning. But to my realisation, its the faulty traffic lights that caused the death.
So GOVERNMENT's fault??
As i thought i could grab some sleep in the journey, but it caused my insomnia all the way to Genting, where as Deep enjoys his deep deep sleep... happy singh.
Upon reaching, FOODD!!!!
Marybrown was something i tried for the first time, didn't taste any special, KFC is still better. To and fro, we went to the casino, then i realised, i need more money for the Caribbean Stud Poker. so i end up playing dices.. lost and won, won and lost...
Bottomline, i lost. -_-
Went for cheap cheap movies, only 18RM- premium seats, popcorn, snacks and drinks! how nice right? so much better than GV where we got to spend s$18.
Ninja Assassin. damn nice! 4stars *blink blink blink blink*
2 days 1 night, a great time i had with Deep, but i wish there were more of us around. And more money$$$$.
Came back today, reached SG around 11+ and i'm hungry for my shower! ! !
No questions answered, shower first... =)

April shall be the next trip.

Monday, December 07, 2009

7weeks had just passed in a blink of an eye, just the other time i was wearing my CV attire to booking in, I'm now wearing my CV attire to recruits' evening. And today is my POC date. How nice, misses everywhere, company, platoon, section. Every individual did their part in making this 7weeks fulfilling for me. Even those that were meant to 'Geng' all the time, they also did their part to irritate me.
I have 21days of break to enjoy to be exact. So i'm pretty much gonna enjoy each day before i'm putting my green uniform to reporting day. Tons to packing to be done, and sure my room missed me too much, made me stuck to bed for long hours!
damn.
i miss swimming, gonna do it soon!

Sunday, November 22, 2009

2weeks left till POC! happily awaiting for that day to arrive, which brings me so much closer to civilization. So much closer to people, so much closer to my entertainments. Hopes are everywhere, thinking about my future and my ambitions. What to do now and what to do next. Got a very good job awaiting for my NS to complete, but i do not know much about it. Do i need to do something about it? To study some shit out of it??
NS have great all these while, been to firing range, went through outfield, soaked myself in muddy puddles, drenched in the showers, bites from mosquitos, heat rash, so much and all. Time just pass so fast. Tug of war is coming soon and i'm a part of it. hopefully we'll win it once again for this cahoot again! =)

I'm still the clean and neat freak!!!

Friday, November 06, 2009

Stepping into civilization once again, 2weeks gone in another island. Remote and Restrain..Waking up early wasn't a problem anymore, and as early as today, i'm awake. Love my friends in my bunk, jokers like me. United we stay strong. And i have to say, i have a sergeant that looks like Jerry Yan, with his body and looks, but a malay version. haha..
Spent my entire time sleeping and shitting in tekong, missing everyone on the other side.. And so lucky enough, bui bui is in the same company with me, and Xian was in the same company from previous cahoot too..how nice!
Heading back again this coming sunday, so i'm gonna have a great time before i leave this island again...
Seeya!!

Wednesday, October 21, 2009

Its 1am in the morning of a 21st wednesday. Counts to a last and final day of freedom. In 48hrs time, i'll be sleeping with my bunk mates in a new environment. All kinds of stories are heard, and its time for me to experience it. My family members are my worries, no more maid cleaning the house and washing the clothes or putting them into the dryer. At least its for 2weeks! My parents are worried, from the way they talk and act, they are already missing me.
But for me, i'm really anticipating to step into these new encounters and adventures.
And for sure there are many misses for me! One important thing is my bolster! hahaha.. Okay. there is tons to miss, tons to feel about. But one person still doesn't get out of my mind... Whisky, Vodka, Red Wine, Sake...blah blah blah. Gin tonic is still the one that i'm missing.

Goodbyes..

Monday, October 19, 2009

My days of counting down. And its 3days left.... Nervous i am, 'steel'...
Decided to get my haircut today while i wait for my friends to turn up for movies. Dragged my mum along with me to witness the blonde to botak. i just realised i have a sharp head, though i always feel its not round enough...
Sentosa tmr morning! and dinner with friends! =)

Saturday, October 17, 2009

Today is 17October. Counting down the days, i'm only left with 4days. Woah! Pretty much enjoyed myself these days, stepping into a new world soon. I'll not be a blonde in 2days time, here comes my botak head! Getting my room is great shape before i leave, clear the dust and and pin up my photos. 101photos! Gathering the stuffs for army, tons of thinking and preparations to do. i'm still addicted to my Tony Parsons, how to i read inside...??? no time arh!! I'm gonna be a 'blackie' soon! A messed up blackie. With uneven tanned lines! YuckS! Yes sergeant! No sergeant! Yes Sir! No Sir! argH!

Randoms...

Sunday, October 11, 2009

Didn't know how to face my friends early in the morning. Was lost and confused. What to say? ER, its just u and me today? I think thats the best words to use bah. Shit man. really disgusted. Wakeboarding alone isn't fun at all. Its like swimming alone in the open sea. Wasn't fun nor exciting. I rather walk with them and fall my butt on the ground with the waveboard than the wakeboard. Didn't much enjoy myself yesterday, but i sure ache all over from the rounds... (*&^%$#@#$%^ Wanna enjoy cursing tomorrow!!

Saturday, October 10, 2009

I'm kite. I'm kite. I'm kite. Being blown off! My God. I couldn't feel worst. All these isn't what i'd expected, i just didn't wanna think like that. God, I'm a kite. I dont feel good, and my mum is the only one who sees it. Ching is listening to my words at 2am in the morning. En wasn't online, probably eating with her mum. Had a long shower to clear the steam, but it still wasn't gone. One last thing, Sky better be my mood. If not thunderstorm will clash on the sixth floor. ARGH!!!
I shall be back to my Tony Parsons...

Wednesday, October 07, 2009

Why would someone choose to play at a court without net rather than a one with net. Confused.

Tuesday, October 06, 2009

I almost burn down my house.
the mug that was burning dry. my mum said its burning RED when she saw it at the stove.

Monday, October 05, 2009

Hairdo Hairdo!
Been coming up with hairstyles to play with before its all gone. Mummy tried tying up my hair to imagine the results when shaved. Isn't what i predicted though.
So now i'm going headache again. In dilemma whether to get my head shaved inside or outside.